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N&V-L Digest 436 - 2 November 1998
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There are 3 messages in this digest.
1. Response to Graciela Moyano
2. English in Bolivia
3. More on wapentake
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1. Response to Graciela Moyano
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In response to Graciela Moyano's posting, although it would be highly commendable to start a project for designing materials, the kind of help María Elena in Santiago del Estero needs is essentially practical, at least for the time being. These people need funding, donations, the elements that will help them to continue with their worthwhile project. Perhaps it will be difficult to do much about funding, unless some members have contacts among the education authorities in Santiago del Estero; but we COULD try and see if any organisations can help in this respect, couldn't we?
How many of us have textbooks that we don't use any more? It doesn't matter if they are old fashioned, or if they respond to "obsolete" approaches : whatever material is good when there's a will to carry out a mission. I propose that we set up a collection of ELT materials that we may not need any more, but which these teachers may find very useful, and that we send those materials to María Elena. We might agree on a place where the materials could be received and then sent to Santiago del Estero. What do the other members think of this idea?
I contacted María Elena as soon as I received the digest where Ana María Armendariz told us about these teachers' predicament. The Foundation I preside over is sending them a computer (it's not the newest model -- a 486 DX 2 -- but fully working and upgraded), and I have added several CALL programs which they can use to provide further practice for their students. I don't know exactly when, but I intend to travel to Santiago del Estero and give a training course on CALL to these teachers before the beginning of the 1999 school year. Perhaps other colleagues can help out in a similar way, and we can all participate in this revolutionary project conceived and put into practice by people with almost nothing but the will to succeed ... and the most admirable vocation one can find in teachers!
Wouldn't this be a great opportunity to show that solidarity exists among Argentine teachers?
With hope,
Cristina
Posted by: Cristina Gallo
Neuquen, Argentina
mailto:cristina@newsystem.com.ar (new email address)
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2. English in Bolivia
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A student of mine who is moving to La Paz, Bolivia, has asked me for help to find a place where she could continue studying English.
Does anybody have any information which might be of help ?
Thank you !! Posted by: Paula Rivas
Teacher of English
mailto:ceyc@interserver.com.ar
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3. More on wapentake
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In response to this enquiry I offer the following:
Wapentake.
This is an Old English reference to a territorial subdivision. Derived from the Old Norse vápnatak, which meant the brandishing of weapons as a sign of approval, or the touching of the weapon of an over-lord as a sign of obesance, in Saxon England it came to mean a territorial subdivision of a county.
The term occurred in those parts of the country where Danish influence was strongest: i.e. Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire & Nottinghamshire, Rutland and the North & West Ridings of Yorkshire. Some references stress the Yorkshire reference.
Its function was identical with that of the HUNDRED, by which name it was occasionally known. Just to confuse us even more, in the first four counties listed above a wapentake was further subdivided into even smaller units called HUNDREDS.
Not a lot of people know that . . . !
That is what it meant - but exactly what Prestwich means I am unsure.
* Steinberg, S. H. & Evans, I. H., Steinberg's Dictionary of British History.
* Brewer, Dictionary of Phrase & Fable
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N&V-L Digest 437 - 4 November 1998
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There are 7 messages in this digest.
1. EL courses in La Paz, Bolivia
2. Looking for Cristina Gallo
3. Cristina Gallo is right !!
4. Wanted - A single to Sevenoaks
5. ELT material for Santiago del Estero
6. Seminar on Coordinating Successfully
7. ELT seminar in Cordoba
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1. EL courses in La Paz, Bolivia
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The British Council has an EL institute in La Paz, Bolivia.
You can either search their Web page for full information
at http://www.britcoun.org/bolivia
or contact them at <mailto:info@bcouncil.org.bo>
Full address Avda. Arce 2708, La Paz Tel.: +591 243 1240 Fax.: +591 243 1377
Contact person: Rocio or Lili
Posted by: Silvia McIver
mailto:silvia.maciver@britcoun.int.ar
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2. Looking for Cristina Gallo
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We are interested in getting in touch with Cristina Gallo who wrote "A CALL Software Evaluation Guide". Does anybody know her e-mail or her address?
Posted by: Fanny Sloer de Godfrid
Universidad del Centro Educativo Latinoamericano - UCEL Rosario
mailto:fannygod@citynet.net.ar
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3. Cristina Gallo is right !!
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A big clap for the people in Santiago del Estero! I think Cristina Gallo is right.We should get a contact address and send material so that this project does go on. I'm already looking for material at home and have separated some books.
They are ready to fly to Santiago del Estero.I am currently working on two projects which I would love to share with the teachers in Santiago del Estero.I'll get in contact soon.
Posted by: Adriana Benvenuto
Universidad Nacional del Comahue
mailto:abenveto@uncoma.edu.ar
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4. Wanted - A single to Sevenoaks
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Some time ago somebody gave me a sketch called "A single to Sevenoaks", that could be used to practise polite requests. I lost the copy, and I haven't been able to trace it. Does anybody know where I can get it? Thanks.
Posted by: Leticia Móccero
mailto:mmoccero@huma.fahce.unlp.edu.ar
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5. ELT material for Santiago del Estero
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The British Council is willing to receive and deliver ELT books received during the month of November. The Council's address is M.T. de Alvear 590 - 4th floor Buenos Aires
Posted by: Silvia MacIver
mailto:silvia.maciver@britcoun.int.ar
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6. Seminar on Coordinating Successfully
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Lynn Adolphson will be directing a seminar on 'coordinating successfully' at the Universidad Maimónides on Friday, November 20 (from 9-12 am) and on Saturday, November 21 (from 9-12 am and from 1:30-4:30 pm).
Lynn Adolphson is currently directing the Norman English Institute in Norman.
The event is ticketed - cost $100 (if you enroll before November 3rd.; $120 after that date.)
Contact: Laura Lewin, Directora ABS International
Guemes 4382 (1425) Capital Federal
Buenos Aires - Argentina
Tel/Fax: (54-1) 832-0761 E-mail:
lewin@einstein.com.ar
Web site: http://www.einstein.com.ar/abs.htm
Posted by: Laura Lewin
mailto:lewin@einstein.com.ar
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6. ELT Seminar in Cordoba
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The Asociacion Cordobesa de Profesores de Ingles (ACPI) is organizing a lecture to be held in the premises of the Asociacion Argentina de Cultura Britanica, Av. Hipolito Irigoyen 496, Cordoba (Phone: (051) 691000 on November 7 from 9 to 12 AM.
The lecture about "POSTMODERNISM: THEORY AND PRACTICE IN THE ANGLO-AMERICAN SOCIETIES (Painting, Architecture and Music) will be delivered by Cristina Martini, MA, Head of the Escuela Superior de Lenguas, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba. ACPI would also like to invite you all to our end-of-the-year dinner. For further information contact Florence Chaudet phone (051) 236347, Blanca Lidia Ripoda (051)617074 or email Elba Debat at <edebat@esl.unc.edu.ar. >
Posted by: ELBA VILLANUEVA DE DEBAT
Escuela Superior de Lenguas
Universidad Nacional de Cordoba
Argentina
mailto:edebat@esl.unc.edu.ar
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N&V-L Digest 438 - 5 November 1998
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Please to remember the 5th of November ....
There are 5 messages in this digest.
1. RE: Victoria Language Services boob
2. Translation Query
3. English and American Literature Summer School
4. Single to Sevenoak
5. Cristina Gallo's email number
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1. RE: Victoria Language Services boob
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Sorry for the header in the last Digest, which should have read N&V-L Digest 437.
Insteaad of keyboarding Cmd + V (for paste) I accidentally pressed Crtl + V, which I have configured as a short cut on my office computer for 'Victoria Language Services'.
Apologies to all concerned - a combination of tiredness and carelessness, that's all.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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2. Translation Query
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Could you help me with this translation query?
What's the English for "mesa de dinero"?
Thanks
Posted by: Alejandra M. Jorge
CAIT - Director
mailto:cait@ciudad.com.ar
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3. English and American Literature Summer School
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List members may be interested in the Eighth English and American Literature Summer School, to be held in Los Cocos, Cordoba, between 3rd and 10th January, 1999.
Lecturers include Ricardo cavallini, Stella Willis Dick, Eugenia Flores de Molinillo, Sonia Marsal, Patricia Orr, Amalia Sanchez Caballero and Nelly Shakespear.
For details of the programme and furthewr information contact Nelly Shakespear & Asociados, Ecuador 1573-9-19, (1425) Capital Federal, Argentina. Tel: 0054-1-825-1465.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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4. Single to Sevenok
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I have got a copy of Single to Sevenok. If you send me your fax number, I can fax it to you.
Posted by: Maria Almeida
Tel 54-1-683-6621
mailto:almeida@satlink.com
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5. Cristina Gallo's email number
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Professor Fanny S. de Godfrid wanted to know Cristina Gallo's e-mail address, which she has recently changed and it is as follows: <mailto:cristina@newsystem.com.ar>
Posted by: Adriana B. Sednaui
Rosario
mailto:cristina@newsystem.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 439 - 6 November 1998
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There are 4 messages in this digest.
1. Argentina TESOL hosts Cono Sur Regional
Meet
2. UruTESOL Elections and end of year party
3. Global Learn day rescheduled
4. Brewer's History of Phrase and Fable
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1. Argentina TESOL hosts Cono Sur Regional Meet
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Jodi Crandall and Katherine Bailey will be attending the third Cono Sur TESOL regional conference next August. The dates have been changed and the event will now take place from August 10 - 14. August 10 will be for Registration, a short orientation meeting for new comers and the opening ceremony late in the evening. The convention itself will start on August 11 and it will finish on August 14 at noon. There will be plenaries, concurrent sessions as usual and it is hoped to have a swap shop, poster sessions, and a networking room.
More information from Argentina TESOL President Mabel Chena on <secbelg@bcl.edu.ar>.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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2. UruTESOL Elections and end of year party
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UruTESOL will be celebrating its end-of-the-year get-together. on December 17 at 8:00 pm in the Club Naval,Soriano 1117, Montevideo.
Tickets (cost U$S 18) are available at Convención 1419 as from
Nov. 25. Tel. 900 83 07 from 9:00 am to 7:00 pm.
You are encouraged to bring along your spouse or significant other.
There will be food, drinks, music and a surprise present for you! All in a friendly atmosphere.
The UruTESOL Board looks forward to welcoming members there!
The UruTESOL Elections will beheld on November 13 from 12:30 pm to 7:00 pm at IPA. At 7:00 pm there will be a talk by Nancy Cusmanich "Sociedad Humana, Sociedad Docente: una nueva encrucijada para la ética"
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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3. Global Learn day rescheduled
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Forwarded message
I am pleased to inform you that the Global Learn Day discussion
"Establishing internationally recognised standards for the
development of ELT teachers and managers via the Internet and other distance media" which was postponed due to technical problems last month, has now been rescheduled for Sunday, November 8 from 14:01 - 14:16 GMT (06:01 - 06:16 PST).
As some of you will know from having read the conference paper (available at http://www.nll.co.uk/GLDII/), it is an open paper and invites those interested in the subject to participate with views and suggestions on how to take this issue forward. The discussion will be held using both live audio and a text-based "chat" forum format. To receive the audio, you will need to have the "Real Audio" application installed in your pc (available free from http://realaudio.com).
(Please note your browser should also be "Java enabled", as the "chat" forum is a Java-based web page. The discussion will take place within the Global Learn Day forum at http://209.60.188.54:8080/~GLD. Please allow a few minutes prior to the discussion to register at the site.
For those who cannot make it on Sunday, we have arranged a further date to continue the discussion. This will take place within the TEFL
Professional Network site at http://tefl.com/conference/ on Wednesday November 11 from 22:00 - 22:30 GMT (14:00 - 14:30).
I hope you will be able to participate in one (or both) of these
discussions.
To view the full EFL/ESL conference schedule, please visit http://www.nll.co.uk/GLDII/EFLpres.htm or for the complete Global
Learn Day schedule, visit http://www.oltraining.com/GLD2/toc.html .
For local times, please check against GMT.
Best regards,
Original Posting: Vicky Fairley
Open Learning International.
http://olionline.com
mailto:vf@olionline.com
Posted to N&V-L by Silvia MacIver
British Council, Argentina
mailto:SMacIver@britcoun.int.ar
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4. Brewer's History of Phrase and Fable
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I have been asked by two list members whether Brewer's "History of Phrase and Fable" is on the web and if so where.
One place here you can find it is:
http://www.bibliomania.com/Reference/PhraseAndFable/index.htm
although there may well be others.
If you have time to waste it is a wonderful compendium of useless information, quite possibly spurious in places and certainly to be taken with large quantities of salt !
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 440 - 11 November 1998
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There are 4 messages in this digest.
1. Looking for George Lewis
2. Change of address - Cultura Rio de Janeiro
3. Seminar on storytelling techniques
4. Henry and Graciela Forbes retire from TCL
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1. Looking for George Lewis
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I would like to contact Mr George Lewis. Does anybody know his address,telephone number or e-mail ?
Please, let me know as soon as possible
Posted by: Ma. Laura Rossi
Lamadrid 2980- 7400- Olavarría-Argentina
Tel/Fax : 54-284- 40310
mailto:mlrossi@satlink.com
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2. Change of address - Cultura Rio de Janeiro
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The Central Office of the Cultura Inglesa will be moving to new premises on Nov 16th. The new address is:
CULTURA INGLESA
Rua São Clemente 258 4º andar
Botafogo
22260-000 Rio de Janeiro - RJ
Brasil
tel: +55 (21) 537-2700
fax: +55 (21) 535-4141
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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3. Seminar on storytelling techniques
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Update Educational Consultancy announces a seminar on storytelling techniques to be led by Cristina Grondona White on November 14th from 10-12 am in the City of Buenos Aires.
Fee $20, information from Tel: (01) 613-7226, 632-7875
Forwarded by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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4. Henry and Graciela Forbes retiring from TCL
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Trinity College London has announced the retirement of Henry and Graciela Forbes at the end of the year. N&V-L would like to join the many others who want to wish Henry and Graciela a 'happy, healthy and restful' retirement.
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 441 - 16 November 1998
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There are 8 messages in this digest.
0. Housekeeping message
1. ELT News & Views web page
2. Upcoming SEAL training course in Buenos Aires
3. Looking for employment in Argentina
4. Reply to grammar query: I want my watch repairing
5. ELT websites in Argentina
6. Built-in Orderly Organised Knowledge device
7. Convention of the teaching of English in Higher Education
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0. Housekeeping message
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If you are concerned about having missed a message in the last week or so, do not worry. One of our servers was down for several days and then the other decided to go on the blink.
Our digests are numberd and so it is easy to see if you have missed a posting. If so, you will soon be able to read back postings on our web page (see below).
List Editor.
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1. ELT News & Views web page
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The ELT News & Views web page is now up although still under construction in parts. You are hereby invited to visit it at http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar, and your comments and harsh criticisms will be very welcome. The N&V-L pages of the website can be found at http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/elist.html
From here you can subscribe, unsubscribe, change address and post your messages to the list.
Some other ideas for the website, currently in the process of implementation, are:
* Job Shop, Argentina
A notice board where schools and institutes in Argentina can advertise posts vacant and also teachers and coordinators, both in Argentina and elsewhere, can offer their services to Argentine institutions. This will be a free service.
* N&V-L postings
A chance to consult N&V-L digests online and to search through old digests for information posted previously.
* ELT Acronyms
The ELT profession is known for its proliferation of acronyms. Many of these are peculiar to Argentina - FAAPI, AACI, SEA, etc. - and not all are universally known. This page will have an ongoing listing of as many acronyms as are known to us and will happily accept additions from list members.
* Calendar of Events
Details of major national and international events in the Cono Sur (Conferences and Conventions) will be displayed here up to 18 months before the event in order to help potential presenters and exhibitors plan their schedules.
* FTP facility
This will be an area where files can be posted for downloading. This means, for example, that conference organisers can place a file on our site with details of calls for papers, etc, and these can be downloaded directly to any computer. This will enable ELT News & Views to offer a wide range of material at no cost and we envisage a changing collection of options in this area.
This is only the beginning and most of
these options are not yet up and running. The site is open, however,
and visitors are welcome, as are their comments.
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2. Upcoming SEAL training course in Buenos Aires
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This is to inform list members of a SEAL Certified Five-Day Training in Suggestive Accelerated Learning presented by Grethe Hooper Hansen, to be held on February 15 - 19, 1999 at San Salvador, Av Cramer 1816
The Art of Learning: Suggestive Accelerated Learning
Day 1- The Brain and Beyond.
Day 2 - Sound body, Sound mind, Sound spirit.
Day 3- Art: The Platonic route to the higher mind.
Day 4- Communication and the Heart.
Day 5- Bonding for ultimate empowerment.
Upon completion of this five-day course, participants will receive a certificate granted by SEAL UK.
Vacancies will be limited to 40 participants.
If your school or institute is interested in organising a one-day in-service training with Grethe during the fourth week in February, please contact us.
For further information:
mailto:verónica.wings@overnet.com.ar (Verónica de Andrés) mailto:moore@pccp.com.ar (Mercedes P.B. de Moore) Fax to (01)752-4701.
Posted by: Mercedes Moore
mailto:moore@pccp.com.ar
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3. Looking for employment in Argentina
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Hi All,
I've just finished my PhD in Second Language Acquisition, and I'm seriously thinking about going back to Argentina. I'll be going in a couple of weeks, but my staying over would depend on the possibility of finding work. My strong areas are SLA theory and CALL. I've got experience teaching English, Spanish and Russian, and at the moment I'm open to suggestions.
Although I'm originally from Patagonia, I'm not fussy about where to work in Argentina, as long as the work is interesting.
If you think my skills can be useful, get in touch with me privately at the address below.
Hope to see some of you soon
Nadine
Posted by: Nadine Laporte
mailto:n.i.laporte@bangor.ac.uk
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4. Reply to grammar query: I want my watch repairing
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Alan Tonkyn (University of Reading) has agreed to the following personal message being posted to the list.
It is true that alternative forms such as:I want my watch to be repaired, or I want my watch repaired, are seen as the standard patterns. The form you quote is found in Britain, and is particularly associated with speakers of Northern British English (eg.Yorkshire), though it seems to be migrating southwards. One notes that an analogous form (My watch needs repairing), where the -ing verb also has passive meaning, is a standard form accepted everywhere.
Hughes, A. and P. Trudgill 1979. 'English Accents and Dialects' (Arnold) p 21: H and T note that there are regional differences in the participles used after 'need' and 'want' and give 'I want it washing' as an example found in 'Parts of the Midlands and northern England'. (The other non-standard one is the Scots form 'It needs washed'.)
Freeborn, D. 1986. 'Varieties of English' (2nd ed.) (Macmillan) p 46. F. notes that the forms 'I want this coat cleaned' and 'I want this coat cleaning' are in common use 'in different parts of Britain' (not specified). He suggests that the former is 'probably the standard form' but that 'stylistic variation' may also be a factor in deciding which is used.
I think the H and T account is clearer and probably more correct. I think, as I suggested before, that we have a northern form here which has migrated south, and even got into some coursebooks! I would teach the standard form, but make advanced students aware of the alternative usage, and avoid test items which would make students choose between the two.
Posted by: Maria Ines Garin
mailto:abcschool@interiguazu.com.ar
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5. ELT websites in Argentina
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There must be thousands of ELT-related websites on the WEb, some good, some not so good. But how many are there relating to Argentina ?
Would list members who know of any useful websites relating to Argentina ELT like to post them here ? Perhaps we can put together a list and publish it on N&V-L. Commercial sites too, if they are 'of interest to teachers of English' - after all we would only post the URL and a few objective comments.
Contributions welcomed . . .
Posted by: List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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6. Built-in Orderly Organised Knowledge device
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Announcing the new Built-in Orderly Organised Knowledge device (BOOK)
The BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology no wires, no electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched on. It's so easy to use even a child can operate it. Just lift its cover! Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere-even sitting in an armchair by the fire-yet it is powerful enough to hold as much information as a CD-ROM disc. Here's how it works...
Each BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper (recyclable),m each capable of holding thousands of bits of information. These pages are locked together with a custom-fit device called a binder, which keeps the sheets in their correct sequence. Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both sides of the sheet, doubling the information density and cutting costs in half.
Experts are divided on the prospects for further increases in information density; for now books with more information simply use more pages. This makes them thicker and harder to carry, and has drawn some criticism from the mobile computing crowd.
Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly into your brain. A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet. The BOOK may be taken up at any time and used by merely opening it. The BOOK never crashes and never needs re-booting, though like other display devices it can become unusable if dropped overboard.
The "browse" feature allows you to move instantly to any sheet, and move forward or backward as you wish. Many come with an "index" feature, which pinpoints the exact location of any selected information for instant retrieval.
An optional "bookmark" accessory allows you to open the BOOK to the exact place you left it in a previous session-even if the BOOK has been closed. Bookmarks fits universal design standards; thus, a BOOK-MARK can be used in BOOKS by various manufacturers.
Conversely, numerous book-markers can be used in a single BOOK if the user wants to store numerous views at once. Only the number of pages in the BOOK limits the number.
You can also make personal notes next to BOOK text entries with an optional programming tool, the Portable Erasable Nib Cryptic Intercommunication Language Stylus (Pencils).
Portable, durable, and affordable, the BOOK is being hailed as the entertainment wave of the future. The BOOK's appeal seems so certain that thousands of content creators have committed to the platform. Look for a flood of new titles soon.
Posted by: Cambridge University Press
Paraguay 946 4o. A
1057 Buenos Aires - Argentina
Tel/Fax: (01) 322-5040/328-7648
mailto:cup.argentina@sion.com
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7. Convention of the teaching of English in Higher Education
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This Convention has been organized by a group of teacher from the Departmentof Modern Languages-English, Universidad Nacional
de Mar del Plata, who feel the need to create a special forum
for those professionals involved in the teaching of English in
higher levels.
So far in our country, language teachers at tertiary and university levels have had little opportunity to share ideas, experiences, and beliefs.
We have no doubt that this event will give all of us, working at universities and 'institutos superiores,' the opportunity to open up and enrich our profession.
If you are interested in receiving more information, send a note to: Chair of the Organizing Committee Dr. Susana B. Tuero 1st. Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education Decanato de la Facultad de Humanidades Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata Dean Funes 3350 7600 Mar del Plata. Bs. As Argentina
e-mail: sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar
Phone#: 54 02379-2531 (leave message)
54 023 79-3500 (Tu. & Th.
from 19:00 to 21:00 hs)
Fax: 54 023 75-2277
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N&V-L Digest 442 - 18 November 1998
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There are 6 messages in this digest.
1. Teachers are people too
2. Global Learn Day II
3. Circle dance in Buenos Aires
4. Actor required
5. Feria del traductor 1998
6. ELT Acronyms
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1. Teachers are people too
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In my ongoing scholarship hunt, I came across a very attractive initiative of the "Fundacion YPF" for projects connected with new developments in education ("Innovacion en Educacion"). I duly sent an email asking for information on those grants. To my surprise, the reply was that they require applicants to have a five-year degree ("nuestros requisitos contemplan egresados de carreras de cinco anios de duracion").
Many questions arose, together with strong feelings of fuel-explosive nature and words which shall remain a secret between me and my computer. If not a teacher with a Profesorado (4-year) or Magisterio (3-year) degree, who is concerned with projects on education? Second, and perhaps foremost: why is a teaching degree ("terciario") worth NOTHING AT ALL, even when the field is education? I cannot think of a clearer example of discrimination and nonsensical behaviour: when it comes to teaching projects, teachers are left out because they are teachers and not "licenciados". As far as they are concerned, a lawyer, a physician, an accountant or a civil engineer are better qualified to do educational research than someone who spends most of his/her time in front of a classroom. At best, and with a lot of good will, this can be described as outrageous.
Isn't it time professional associations
did something about it? Isn't it time teachers stood up for our
position as professionals? The least we can do is bombard their
email address with requests for information, and answer individually
that we are not university graduates and that we are better prepared
than many, if not all, "licenciados". The best we can
do is actually raise some hell about it. The worst we can do is
nothing. I, for one, am not planning to go for the latter. Anyone
care to join? Posted by: Pablo Toledo
mailto:toledo@movi.com.ar
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2. Global Learn Day II
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GLD2 takes place 19/20 December and is a 30 hour non stop webcast featuring distance education, access, Teffling (your way around the world), and lifelong learning. What makes it unique, we think, is that we open the event in Wellington, New Zealand with real time presentaitons from educators and public officials in N.Z., then, every hour or so, move the event on a westward track around the world where speakers from a new "port" (Japan, China, India, Abu Dhabi, South Africa, Egypt, Austria, Russia, England, Brazil, Peru, Mexico, Canada and five American cities before we "drop anchor" in Hawaii) make various presentations of all kinds. GLDII has nautical theme - a 19th Century (virtual) Clipper on a Voyage of Discovery -expedition, exhibition, experiment - mostly writing " new charts" that better map "the richest territory in the history of man - Cyberia".
Between each "port" we have thematic music and some poetry appropriate to the Region and to the presentations about to take place. Graciela provides the music; a lovely lady in Kansas selects the music. We also make "Skiff Stops for about five minutes in places like Antarctica, Cuba, Ukraine, Mozambique, Estonia, Albania, Cypress, Malta, Palestine, and even aboard an actual Tall Ship out in the Indian Ocean. Speakers are live by telephone bridged conversations to the headquarters of our webcaster, VStream, in Colorado. Please visit http://www.bfranklin.edu to find out more, including http://www.bfranklin.edu/timetable.htm - though this is a big file and slow to download for most people.
A major part of the undertaking is lead by an Englishman, Eric Baber, who Chairs our TEFL "mast", who is one of the heavy duty volunteers to organize this undertaking and who provides English language instructions over the Internet. A great guy. Our Institute is interested in forming an alliance made out of the 200,000 expatriates teaching English overseas....more on that later.
Posted by: John W. Hibbs
Benjamin Franklin Institute of Global Education
Lead Spirit to Global Learn Day
mailto:hibbs@bfranklin.edu
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3. Circle dance in Buenos Aires
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Circle Dance with Laura Shannon (U.K.)
For TEFL teachers, workshop and group leaders in general and anyone interested in building trust and safe interpersonal relationships in groups.
Laura (specialized in transcultural studies) became a Circle Dance Facilitator in the Findhorn Foundation (Scotland) in 1988 and has travelled widely throughout the US and Eastern and Western Europe to learn and teach circle dance.
A) Evening gathering: Nov. 20th - 20.00
to 22.00 Hs. $15
B) Workshop: Nov. 21st - 10.00 to 18.00 Hs. $40
C) Workshop: Nov. 22nd - 10.00 to 18.00 Hs. $40
Both B and C $ 60
Enrolment and Information: Maria Marta Suarez (Head) IACA - Billinghurst 1741 Bs As e-mail: iaca@mbox.servicenet.com.ar Phone: 01 - 827-1396 Ph/Fax: 01 - 821-0280
Pôsted by: Maria Marta Suarez
mailto:iaca@mbox.servicenet.com.ar
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4. Actor required
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I am writing as Casting Director of The Group Theatre Company, Buenos Aires, Argentina. The Group is a professional company that performs plays in English for children and is based in Buenos Aires, Argentina but also tours in Uruguay, Chile and Brasil.
Currently I am searching for a young actor to be our company's male lead. He would act in between one hundred and fifty and two hundred functions plus rehearsals in 1999
The successful candidate would receive salary.
Please get in touch with me for further information ASAP:
Tel/Fax + 541 743-2009 Email: hello@thegroup.com.ar
Thank you for your attention.
Posted by: Alice Penn
mailto:hello@thegroup.com.ar
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5. Feria del traductor 1998
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The Asociacion de Traductores Publicos e Interpretes de la Provincia de Buenos Aires are holding their Feria del Traductor 1998 on Saturday, 21 November from 11.00 to 19.00 at 49 #848 (esq. 12) La Plata. Entrance free.
More info from ATPIPBA: 021-25-4541/48344
01-315-1469/1470
Forwarded by List Editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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6. ELT Acronyms
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N&V-L is about to put up a page on our website with common acronyms amd abbreviations connected with English Language Teaching around the world.
If your institution is commonly known by an acronym (e. g. AMPI, AACI, FAAPI, etc.), you are invited to send us details for inclusion in the list.
Similarly if you know of any other common abbreviations you think might be suitable to share with others we shall be pleased to receive them.
Send us three pieces of information: a) the acronym or abbreviation, b) the expansion (what it means or stands for) and c) the country or countries in which it is commonly used. Any other information you care to send can go into a 'comments' field.
Thanks for your help.
Posted by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 443 - 19 November 1998
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There are 7 messages in this digest.
1. On the value of University degrees
2. A reply to Pablo Toledo
3. Convention - Teaching of English in Higher Education
4. RE: Acronyms
5. Scholarships
6. Another reply to Pablo Toledo
7. More on discrimination
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1. On the value of University degrees
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Re: Pablo Toledo's comments, all that glitters is not gold. I received this spam mail through my mail box today - read it, as I think it speaks for itself.
Increase your personal prestige and money
earning power through an advanced university degree.
Eminent, non-accredited universities
will
award you a degree for only $200.
Degree granted based on your present
knowledge and experience. No further
effort necessary on your part.
Just a short phone call is all that is
required for
a BA, MA, MBA, or PhD diploma in the field of your
choice.
For details, call xxx-xxx-xxxx
Remember, all that glitters is not gold.
Posted by: Martin Eayrs
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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2. A reply to Pablo Toledo
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Is Pablo aware that there are many Teachers who are also Licenciadas/os? There are some Teachers, myself included, who attended National Universities. I had to study for 5 years and a semester to get my degree.(Promocion was just one of our golden dreams...we had to take oral exams for all subjects).
I understand Pablo's frustration ..but I would raise hell for age discrimination for example which I really consider unfair...but degree matters ?...they can be solved...
My two Patacones from Patagonia ;o)
Posted by: Daniela Forquera
mailto:danielafo@arnet.com.ar
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3. Convention - Teaching of English in Higher Education
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1st Convention - Teaching of English in Higher Education Mar del Plata, Argentina, June 24, 25, and 26, 1999
This Convention has been organized by a group of teachers from the Department of Modern Languages-English, Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata, who feel the need to create a special forum for those professionals involved in the teaching of English in higher levels. So far in Argentina, language teachers at tertiary and university levels have had little opportunity to share ideas, experiences, and beliefs.
If you are interested in receiving more information, send a note to:
Chair of the Organizing Committee Dr. Susana B. Tuero 1st. Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education Decanato de la Facultad de Humanidades Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata Dean Funes 3350 7600 Mar del Plata. Bs. As Argentina
e-mail: sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar
Phone#: 54 023 79-2531 or 54 023 79-3500
Fax: 54 023 75-2277
Posted by: Susana Tuero
mailto:sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar
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4. RE: acronyms
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RE: ELT Acronyms
AACI. Asociación Argentina de Cultura Inglesa Argentina
LABCI. Latin America British Cultural Institutes Latin America
COBCI. Confederation of British Cultural Institutes Argentina
Posted by: Veronica R. Parsiale.
National Resources Centre
Asociacion Argentina de Cultura Inglesa (A.A.C.I.)
mailto:biblioteca@aacibsas.org.ar
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5. Scholarships
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MA Linguistics (TESOL) by distance learning
The English Language Institute is offering 5 scholarhsips on a
competitive basis for the above course to teachers who are resident
in South America. Nationals of any country resident in South America
may apply.
Each scholarship awarded will be for 1,000 pounds sterling, to be deducted from tuition fees.
Further information and application forms may be downloaded from the MA web page http://www.surrey.ac/uk/ELI/eli.html
Posted by: Silvia MacIver, British Council
mailto:silvia.maciver@britcoun.int.ar
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6. Another reply to Pablo Toledo
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There are some points about Pablo Toledo's posting I would like to refer to. I can fully understand his being upset by the attitude of universities in this country (Argentina) that will not accept degrees granted by the Institutos de Formación Docente (teacher training colleges) as equivalents of undergraduate instruction to pursue postgraduate studies. This is an old story of universities regarding themselves as superior to the Institutos, even if the oldest institutions in charge of the training of EFL teachers are, in fact, the Institutos de Formación Docente: Instituto de Enseñanza Superior en Lenguas Vivas "Juan Ramón Fernández" (founded 1904) and the Instituto Superior del Profesorado "Joaquín V. González" (English department founded 1911). The university departments of English around the country have traditionally held a high respect for these institutions, whose course syllabi have served as copymasters for the EFL departments both at the IFD and the universities founded after that time.
But the main point in Pablo's posting is concerned with research: who is better qualified to carry out educational research, a secondary school teacher, a primary school teacher or a licenciado. Pablo also refers to the years of instruction involved: 4 years for secondary school teachers and 3 years for primary school teachers. He does not mention that most licenciaturas are 5-year courses. A licenciatura is a course that aims at training researchers; a Licenciado en Inglés has had apart from the usual trio of language, phonetics and grammar a number of courses concentrating on the object of study in depth: linguistics or literature. In addition to those, a licenciado needs to get acquainted with the research methods pertaining to his field of specialization and last but not least he or she has to produce a "tesina", a 50-100 page long dissertation which he or she has to defend before an examining board.
Teacher training in this country does not - at least to my knowledge - either train students in research methods or require their producing a dissertation of a considerable length. This is why teachers are "left out" as Pablo writes. So I do not share his comment that "(IFD graduates) are better prepared than many, if not all, licenciados". I think there are cases and cases.
Posted by: Mario LOPEZ BARRIOS
mailto:lopez@unsj.edu.ar
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7. More on discrimination
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The discrimination that Pablo refers for obtaining a grant extends to teaching as well. Last year the English Department of Instituto Superior del Profesorado Joaquin V. Gonzalez presented a project for Trayectos de Capacitacion de la Red Federal de Formacion Docente Continua del Gobierno de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires. I took part in the team whose project was accepted, having developed the module dedicated to the teaching of sounds.
However, to be able to teach this Trayecto, the teachers have to have a CUIT number - a personal one or a "borrowed" one. Ethics? Who cares.
Everyone knows that most teachers who work at public Teachers' Training Colleges are government agents and not independent professionals. I made a personal lonely presentation to the authorities of Secretaria de Educacion de GCBA and the reply was - in so many words - take it or leave it.
I have not given up yet but the real thing is that nobody cares about qualifications and here is where my quest meets Pablo's demand. All that matters is figures, not quality, not ethics, not values.
Posted by: Graciela C. Moyano
mailto:gmoyano@tournet.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 444 - 19 November 1998
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There are 6 messages in this digest.
1. Re: Standing corrected
2. Supporting Pablo Toledo
3. Reply from Pablo Toledo
4. New APIBA Committee
5. APIBA end of year toast
6. Language school closing down - selling library
and stock
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1. Re: Standing corrected
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There was a misunderstanding on my last posting concerning the grants offered by the Fundacion YPF. The program for "Innovacion Educativa" does not apply to teachers or professionals, but institutions and schools. What is off-limits to those with a "terciario" degree is the program that offers postgraduate scholarships for those who want to study abroad (Programa de Becas Jose A. Estenssoro. This does not affect the discriminatory nature of the criterion, but I stand corrected on what I had first said. I may be angry, but I am still honest and fair.
Posted by Pablo Toledo
mailto:toledo@movi.com.ar
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2. Supporting Pablo Toledo
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Pablo, I am with you. Teachers teach and form professionals, but they are not considered professionals. Do you know the saying that says ' Life is not fair?' . Well, this proves the rule. I wonder what will happen if teachers one day get tired of the whole thing and stop forming professionals to be.
Posted by: Maria Almeida
The Wasteland Challenge
mailto:almeidaa@satlink.com
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3. Reply from Pablo Toledo
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I am only too happy that people reacted to the posting, be it to criticise or to agree with it. I think it would not be abusive to keep the ball rolling on the mailing list rather than streaming it to private emails, since the topic seems to be of interest to so many participants.
I am perfectly aware that there are such people as "Licenciados en Ingles", and I should be a bit on the schizophrenic side to throw dirt on some people when I am criticising the very act of throwing dirt on people. Far from not acknowledging the value of those with university degrees (though teaching degrees at universities are of dissimilar quality, just as in the Profesorados), I am saying that we are actually on a par. Teachers are teachers, the rest is administrative. For the record, I also had to study 5 years for my degree (OK, not the official length of the course of studies, call me a "slow learner"), and Promocion was also a seldom achieved utopia.
As to Mario Lopez Barrios's remarks that university training is wider, I only have to go back to the subjects I took: 4 years of British literature, 1 year of American Literature, 2 years of British History, 1 of American History, Geography, 2 years of Grammar plus Linguistics... I would not call this an introduction to the main issues of TEFL. As to the research element, I agree that the weak point of many Profesorados is the little attention paid to research, and the fact that this is left to the criterion of individual teachers. I have been lucky enough to receive training on action and academic research, but I am aware that many graduates from the Profesorados hardly know the meaning of either term (more on this, see my "Howl" posting's call for more active teachers). However, I do not agree to the view that licenciados should be the illuminati of the system. The fact that the Profesorados do not have a dissertation or a "Methodology of research" subject does not make their graduates any less able to perform research, and does by no means justify the exclusion from postgraduate study opportunities. Many graduates from Profesorados have gone on to become bright students at MAs and have produced substantial and meaningful research, without being impaired at any moment by the lack of a research-oriented degree. That this should be used as the grounds for academic discrimination, then, still strikes me as absurd.
Posted by: Pablo Toledo
to:toledo@movi.com.ar
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4. New APIBA Committee
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Following the elections that took place at the AGM after the Annual Seminar on October 3rd, 1998, the new APIBA Committee is integrated as follows:
President: Beatriz Tosso
Vice-President: Mirta D,Alessio
Secretary: Rita Faré de Garrido
Treasurer: Stella M. S. de Ugarte
Deputy Treasurer: Susana Masoero
Ordinary Members: Ma. Teresa De V. De Stringa
Cristina Banfi
Posted by: Cristina Banfi
mailto:banfiday@ssdnet.com.ar
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5. APIBA end of year toast
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All Members of APIBA (and prospective Members) are invited to the traditional End-of-Year Toast.
Venue: I.E.S. en Lenguas Vivas J.R. Fernández,, Carlos Pellegrini 1455, Capital. Date and time: 17th December, 1998, 7 p.m.
4th year students who want to learn more about APIBA are particularly welcome
Posted by: Cristina Banfi
mailto:banfiday@ssdnet.com.ar
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6. Language school closing down - selling library and stock
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List members in the Buenos Aires area may be interested in a sale of new and second hand teaching material.
The Victoria School of English is getting rid of lots of new and second hand books, cassettes and videos relating to the teaching of English - course books at all levels (complete courses with TB, SB, WB + Cs), many skills books, many activity books (photocopiable), some dictionaries and reference books, lots of simplified readers, some ESP, very little methodology, no linguistics.
Also for sale are many second hand books in English - novels and non-fiction - left over from when the school had a 'teacher's library' which was largely formed by books left behind by contracted teachers.
The Victoria School is also disposing of some items of school furniture - desks, white boards, etc.
The sale will take place at Uruguay 782-3º, (1015) Capital Federal, on Saturday 21 November from 12.00 to 14.00 only. If you can not come in this timetable you can phone 01-371-7705 during the following week to see whether enough material is left to fix another date .
Posted by: Martin Eayrs
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 445 - 22 November 1998
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There are 5 messages in this digest.
1. ELT Jobshop Argentina
2. APIBA Call for Papers
3. Longman Argentina is moving
4. The MIT Encyclopedia of Cognitive Sciences
5. VII Jornadas Ensenanza Leng. Ext. nivel superior
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1. ELT Jobshop Argentina
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Teaching Institutions looking for teaching staff for 1999 are invited to place an advertisment on the "Positions offered" pages of the ELT News & Views 'Jobshop' web page.
Similarly, whether you live in Argentina or elsewhere, if you are looking for a teaching position in Argentina you are invited to post your details on the "Positions wanted" pages of the same web site.
You will find the application forms and further information at http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar - click on the link that says "ELT Jobs Argentina".
There is no charge for this service, but in order for it to grow and be useful it needs to become generally known. Passing the word around will thus be in everyone's interest.
Posted by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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2. APIBA Call for Papers
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A Call for Papers is open for a special APIBA event, "The Future of Teacher Education", to be held in April 1999
The meeting will host round-tables and presentations on the subject "The Future of Teacher Education". In the light of the reform the education system as a whole is undergoing, and in particular with reference to the education of teachers of English, it is of crucial importance that all issues connected with this matter be discussed and analysed in depth.
What is it about?
APIBA will provide this forum to all those interested in presenting their research and ideas in this area. Papers in the areas of curricular design, specific content areas, alternative approaches, specific methodologies, for example, will be most welcome (this is not an attempt to be an exhaustive list of areas).
How can I participate?
Two copies of an anonymous abstract (200-300 words) should be sent together with a card with the presenter,s name, contact details and brief biographical information (50-100 words). Joint presentations are also welcome. The envelope should be labelled "The Future of Teacher Education" and sent to APIBA office: M.T. de Alvear 1369, 1058 Cap. Fed.
Deadline for submission of abstracts: 5 March, 1999.
Conference date: 23-24 April, 1999
Further information: banfiday@ssdnet.com.ar
Posted by: Cristina Banfi
mailto:banfiday@ssdnet.com.ar
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3. Longman Argentina is moving
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As from December 1st Longman Argentina will be contactable at a new address
Address: Av. Regimiento Patricios 1959
1266 Capital Federal
Tel: 541-309-6100
Fax: 541-309-6199
email: name + first letter surname @pearsoned.com.ar
e.g. for Diana Repetto
Posted for: Diana Repetto
Posted by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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4. The MIT Encyclopedia of Cognitive Sciences
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This very useful link can be found at:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/MITECS/
The MIT Encyclopedia of Cognitive Sciences (MITECS), an electronic
publication of the MIT Press, is a new comprehensive reference
work that encompasses the diverse theories and methodologies of
the cognitive and brain sciences. The encyclopedia contains 471
specialized articles by preeminent researchers and scholars; articles
include extensive bibliographies and provide multiple cross-references.
MITECS spans six major topics: Philosophy; Psychology; Neuroscience;
Computational Intelligence; Linguistics and Language; and Culture,
Cognition, and Evolution. The introductory essays that precede
each major section discuss topics within the larger framework
of the cognitive sciences. The encyclopedia may be browsed by
an author or a topic index, and the entire work is searchable
by keyword. Please note that first-time users of the encyclopedia
are required to register at the site; necessary registration information
includes email address, full name, and research interests.
Forwarded from Beliar by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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5. VII Jornadas Ensenanza Leng. Ext. nivel superior
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The VII Jornadas de Ensenanza de las Lenguas Extranjeras en el nivel superior will take place at the Universidad Nacional de Cuyo on 15 - 17 April 1999.
The call for papers is now out and those interested in submitting a paper or finding out more should contact the English Department at .
Submissions for papers should be in by 30 November 1998.
Forwarded by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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N&V-L Digest 446 - 30 November 1998
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There are 3 messages in this digest.
1. 1st.Convention of the Teaching of
English in
Higher Education
2. The challenge of understand expository texts
3. ELT Acronyms and abbreviations
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1. 1st.Convention of the Teaching of English in
Higher Education
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If you have sent us a message asking for
information on the
´1st.Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education,´
but haven´t received anything so far, please, contact us
again.
We have had some problems with our system here, and some messages
keep bouncing back.
If all else fails: contact me by mail at:
Dr. Susana B. Tuero
Chair of the Organizing Committee
1st. Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education
Decanato de la Facultad de Humanidades
Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata
Dean Funes 3350
7600 Mar del Plata,
Buenos Aires
ARGENTINA
Thanks
Posted by: Susana B. Tuero
mailto:sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar
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2. The challenge of understand expository texts
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Gabriela Castineira and Patricia Lastiri
will be giving a
presentation on "The challenge of understand expository
texts" at KEL (Belgrano) on Friday 4 Dec at 17.30.
The talk is free and further information
can be obtained
from T: 776-3681, F 779-0872 or <ssargelt@comnet.com.ar>
Posted by Elida Messina
mailto:ssargelt@comnet.com.ar
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3. ELT Acronyms and abbreviations
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The first draft of the ELT News & Views
list of common acronyms
and abbreviations in ELT is now up on our web site and can be
consulted at:
http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/acronyms/acronyms.html
Additions and modifications will be welcome.
Posted by: Martin Eayrs
Editor ELT News & Views
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar
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