N&V-L Digests 459 - 470
March 1999

 

 

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N&V-L Digest 460 - 1 March 1999
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There are 3 messages in this digest.

1. More millenary madness
2. Logging on to #ELTNews&Views on Dalnet
3. Fame for the list

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1. More millenary madness
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Of course it was inevitable that if I wrote about spelling I would
make a spelling mistake in the posting ! Below is a corrected version.

If you want to get wise, that's two 'l's and two 'n's in millennium
if you please, in British or American English. The words 'millenary'
and millenarian however have only a single 'n'.

[and not as I wrote a single 'l' !].

Posted by: Martin Eayrs
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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2. Logging on to #ELTNews&Views on Dalnet
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If you need IRC software or to learn a little more about how chat
programmes work you can go to

http://www.internet-chat.com/index2.html (PC users)

or http://www.ircle.com/ (if you have a Mac).

You can download free chat software at both sites and also a manual
which will help you get started. Remember you must have IRC software:
we recommend 'mIRC' for PC users and 'IRCle' for Macintosh. There are
other ways of chatting on the net but they won't get you through to
Dalnet.

Remember to log on to Dalnet (not Overnet, Undernet or any of the
other options). If you choose to use <hebron.in.us.dal.net> you
will be on the same server as the ListOp and are less likely to lose
contact with the channel and also more likely to get a fast connection.

The name of the channel is #ELTNews&Views, typed exactly as given here
(the # symbol is not required but will be put in by the software).

You are invited along Tuesdays from 21.00 to 24.00, Argentine Time.
(12.00 - 03.00 GMT). The more the merrier so invite your friends -
the only real stipulation is that English is spoken in channel.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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3. Fame for the list
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The N&V-L List was mentioned at the International House Conference in
London, February 1999, once by Jeremy Harmer on Pablo Toledo's 'outburst'
concerning teaching teenagers in Argentina, which he read in full at his
plenary, the other I think by Scott Thornsbury (sorry I can't quote
because I don't remember).

The wonderful thing is that [. . .] managed to make the List hit the
headlines, and therefore EFL in Argentina in general.

I was delighted to notice how influential the list has become in the field
of EFL, and how our voices are heard because we are on line, and get
published.

Ron White's contribution on Politeness is very illuminating and clear, a
real pleasure to read such informed materials in the list.

Posted by: Inés Cambiasso
mailto:icambiasso@mail.interlink.com.ar

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N&V-L Digest 461 - 1 March 1999
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There are 4 messages in this digest.

1. Reply to Estela Fernández (distance courses)
2. Melanie Williams at ESSARP Centre
3. Third Cono Sur Regional TESOL Convention
4. APIBA Conference - "The Future of Teacher Education"

 

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1. Reply to Estela Fernández (distance courses)
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The Colegio de Traductores Públicos de Bs.As. (CTPCBA) offers
a distance course to get a Post-graduate Certificate in Translation
Skills (City University in London).

If you want to get some information about it, contact the CTPCBA:

Callao 289 - 4º Piso
(1022) Buenos Aires
Tel/Fax: 4371-8616
4372-7961/2961
e-mail: postmaster@bibtra.edu.ar

Hope I have helped.

Posted by: Laura Coria
mailto:langprof@ciudad.com.ar

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2. Melanie Williams at ESSARP Centre
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Melanie Williams will be giving a workshop at the ESSARP Centre
on Monday. March 1st from 9.15 a.m. - 12.15 p.m.

The topic of the workshop will be "Cross-curricular topic work
and activities: integrating language and content".

Summary:

Language learning for young learners usually focuses around topics
and themes such as family or food. It seems appropriate that these
topics and the activities draw on the learners' skills and knowledge
from other curriculum subjects as well as the world around them.
In this session we will explore ways in which this planning can be
done, with or without a course book, ensuring grammar and language
skills assume their rightful place. The workshop will also look at
different activities which make use of the learners' cross-curricular
knowledge and skills.

 

Melanie Williams is a freelance ELT consultant and teacher trainer
based in the UK. She has extensive experience in the Young Learner
field, has worked with teachers and trainers in many parts of the
world and is a regular contributor at international conferences and
to international journals. She is a CILTS (UCLES) Senior Consultant
and has been involved in developments leading to awards for teachers
of young learners for eight years. She is also Joint Chief Assessor
for COTE schemes. She is a specialist tutor on two Masters Level
programmes: the young learners' component of the Masters Level
Award programme for The University of East Anglia in collaboration
with NILE (Norwich Institute for Language Education); the MA in
TEYL by distance for the University of York where she has been
partly responsible for the development of materials. She is an
IATEFL Young Learners SIG committee member.

Info from ESSARP at <banfi@essarp.org.ar>

Posted by: Critina Banfi
mailto:banfi@essarp.org.ar

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3. Third Cono Sur Regional TESOL Convention
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The 1999 Cono Sur Regional TESOL Convention conference will
take place in Buenos Aires from 10 - 14 August 1999. The Cono
Sur TESOL conference takes place every two years and this year
it is the turn of Argentina TESOL to act as host.

The theme of the convention is "Mapping out our Future" and
keynote speakers will be Kathleen Bailey and Jo Ann Crandall.
Kathleen Bailey is currently President of TESOL Inc, the parent
organisation in the US.

The call for papers is now out and those wishing to submit a
proposal for a Demonstration, Workshop, Colloquium, Poster
Session or Swap Shop activity should contact Argentina TESOL
at:
Maipú 672
(1006) Buenos Aires
Argentina .

Tel: 0054-11-4394-0110 or 0054- 11-4772-5104 (from UK)
Fax: 0054- 11-4394-2979/772-5104 (from UK)
e-mail: <la@bcl.com.ar> or <secbelg@bcl.com.ar> (try both).

Those interested should act now on this and request the proposal
forms as all proposals must be in by May 30th, 1999.

Advertisers interested in taking out a stand should also contact
the same address.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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4. APIBA Conference - "The Future of Teacher Education"
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"The Future of Teacher Education"
APIBA Conference
Buenos Aires, May 7th - 8th, 1999

Call for Papers

Given the increasing interest in the future of teacher education in
the context of the current educational reform, and the specific needs
of foreign language teachers, the APIBA Executive Committee have decided
to organise the first of what we hope will become a series of meetings
to promote the presentation and discussion of the core issues by experts
in the field.

The presentations can be carried out in English or Spanish but, due
to financial constraints, no simultaneous translation will be provided.

Abstracts should be submitted by March 15th and sent to APIBA Conference,
c/o KEL Ediciones, M. T. de Alvear 1369, (1058) Capital Federal or sent
to apiba@yahoo.com. Two anonymous copies of the abstract should be
submitted together with one named abstract including: author(s)'s
name(s), address, telephone/fax numbers, e-mail address, and affiliation,
and a brief biographical paragraph (50 words) for inclusion in the
conference programme. Abstracts should not exceed 200 words in length.

Presentations are expected to have a duration of 20 minutes, plus 5
minutes for questions and discussion. Proposals for panels, roundtables a
nd group presentations are also welcome.

For further information, please contact <apiba@yahoo.com>

Posted by: Cristina Banfi
mailto:banfiday@ssdnet.com.ar

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N&V-L Digest 462 - 4 March 1999
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There are 5 messages in this digest.

1. Buenos Aires International Bookfair
2. Seminar - "Coordinating Successfully"
3. #ELTNews&Views started up on schedule
4. Politeness on the Web
5. Language query: 'desorbs'

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1. Buenos Aires International Bookfair
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2nd. International Meeting on Teaching of Foreign Languages

The British Council would like to inform list members that the
above three day meeting will take place as from 23 April at the
Bookfair premises.

The Council has invited Dr. John Clark who will be giving a
lecture on Sunday 25 at 2pm on 'Content based curriculum'.

A full programme of talks can be obtained at the Council,
posted or faxed on request.

Registration this year is at the Bookfair offices as there will
be a registration fee of 10 pesos. Bank transfers will also be
accepted plus the request to fax receipts to ensure registration.
There is a limited number of places.

Bookfair address - Hipolito Yrigoyen 1628-5, 1344 Buenos Aires.
Tel. 11-4374-3288 Fax. 11-4375-0268 (From 9am to 5pm).

Bank transfers are to be sent to orden Fundacion El Libro.
Deposits to be made in Banco Rio de la Plata no. 2000-2 sucursal
029, or Banco Galicia 1060-5064-4 sucursal 064.

Posted by: Silvia MacIver
Information Manager, The British Council
mailto:silvia.maciver@britcoun.int.ar

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2. Seminar - "Coordinating Successfully"
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This seminar is intended for new coordinators and English Teachers
who would like to coordinate English Institutes or English Departments
of schools at all levels. It will be held on March 20 from 9:00 am to
4:30 pm. More information from ABS

Posted by: Laura Lewin, Directora ABS International
Guemes 4382 (1425) Capital Federal - Argentina
Tel/Fax: (54-11) 4- 832-0761
mailto:lewin@einstein.com.ar

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3. #ELTNews&Views started up on schedule
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Well, six people logged on to the #ELTNews&Views chat channel last
Tuesday. Not a lot, but at least we got it off the ground.

List members are invited along Tuesdays from 21.00 to 23.00,
Argentine Time. (12.00 - 02.00 GMT). The more the merrier. so invite
your friend and colleagues - teachers and students at the Prof or
Traductorado - the only stipulation is that English be spoken in
channel.

Remember to log on to Dalnet (not Overnet, Undernet or any of the
other options). If you choose to use <hebron.in.us.dal.net> you
will be on the same server as the ListOp and are less likely to lose
contact with the channel and also more likely to get a fast connection.

The name of the channel is #ELTNews&Views, typed exactly as given here
(the # symbol is not required but will be put in by the software).

To communicate with the List Editor on #ELTNews&Views:

/Msg El_Ingles.

If you need IRC software or to learn a little more about how chat
programmes work you can go to

http://www.internet-chat.com/index2.html (PC users)

or http://www.ircle.com/ (if you have a Mac).

You can download free chat software at both sites and also a manual
which will help you get started. Remember you must have IRC software:
we recommend 'mIRC' for PC users and 'IRCle' for Macintosh. There are
other ways of chatting on the net but they won't get you through to
Dalnet.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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4. Politeness on the Web
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Further to my notes on politeness, in response to Adriana Benvenuto's
query in N&V-L Digest 457 - 25 February 1999, I have a paper on the
Web which develops some aspects of politeness in the context of
intercultural dimensions of business English training.

Here's the address:

http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/cl/CALS/closing.html

Posted by: Ron White
mailto:r.v.white@reading.ac.uk

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5. Language query: 'desorbs'
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Does anybody know the meaning of "desorbs"(verb). I'm translating a
manual. The sentence reads "The material adsorbs on the reservoir
rock and desorbs over a long period to mantain the protective film."
It has to do with Squeeze Treatment into oil producing formations.

By the way, I'd also welcome a translation for "Squeeze treatment"
to compare with mine. (I wrote: Tratamiento a presión)

Thanks in advance to the soul that helps me out.....

Posted by: Claudia Torres de Cristofakis
Comodoro Rivadavia
mailto:cristo@satlink.com

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N&V-L Digest 463 - 6 March 1999
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There are 5 messages in this digest.

1. Reply to Heather Clark
2. Language query
3. Welcome to IGCSE
4. Business English Course
5. Multiple Learning Course

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1. Reply to Heather Clark
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A possible answer for Heather Clark would be to look at the
Keltic Web site - www.keltic.co.uk This covers the majority
of ELT titles published by British publishers.

Contact Keltic at 39 Alexandra Road, Addlestone, Surrey,
KT15 2PQ for a printed copy of the Guide.
Posted by: Eileen Fryer
Sales and Marketing Director
Mailto:eileen@deltabooks.co.uk

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2. Language query
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Can somebody "enlighten" me please? I have noticed that "zero" is
being used even in tennis (15-0: fifteen-zero, instead of fifteen
- love). Another example could be the fact of saying "two-zero-one"
for a room number at a London hotel.

Is "zero" becoming over generalised?

Thanks a lot.

Posted by: Bethina Viale
mailto:velvia@ciudad.com.ar

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3. Welcome to IGCSE
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The aim of this series of introductory meetings is to allow
teachers who are not familiar with IGCSE examinations, but who
may be considering preparing their students for them, to obtain
some background on the exams, their organisation and components.

There will be meetings organised for the different IGCSE subjects.
Experienced teachers in the relevant subject areas will run the
presentations. The sessions will:

* Go over the subject syllabus in detail with the participants,
focusing on Aims and Domains. Curriculum contents are normally
less of a problem as they are more subject-specific.

* Explain assessment and paper options.

* Present the concept of "positive achievement", illustrating
with samples of students' assignments (authentic or taken from
Distance Training Pack)

* Photocopied question papers will be discussed.

* Ample time will be set aside for discussion and question time
at the end of the presentation workshop.

The presentations will include 'Welcomes' to:

Presentation Presenter Date Time

IGCSE Art & Design Dolores Poole March 17 17:00
IGCSE English Literature Nick Martin March 18 17:00
IGCSE Literatura Cristina Colonnella March 19 14:00
IGCSE Mathematics Jimmy Cappanera March 24 09:00
IGCSE Computer Science Daniel Magaldi March 24 17:00
IGCSE English as L1 Cecilia Ferreiro March 25 17:00
IGCSE Spanish a L1 Cristina Colonnella March 26 14:00
IGCSE Música Humberto López March 26 17:00
IGCSE Economics Esteban Gonnet March 30 17:00
IGCSE Child Development Silvia Miserendino March 31 17:30
IGCSE Biology Ewan McDonald April 12 17:00
IGCSE Natural Economy Hilda G. de Talarico April 23 17:30
IGCSE Geography Robert Foot May 5 17:30
IGCSE History Mercedes Márquez May 21 17:00

The sessions are free of charge, but registration is required.

Regular meetings for the teachers teaching these courses are run
throughout the year. For further information, please refer to
the Course Programme and/or contact ESSARP.

All "Welcome" sessions will take place at the ESSARP Centre,
Callao 67 5*A, Tel.: 4371-6064, Fax.: 4383-2260,
E-mail: centre@essarp.org.ar

Posted by: Cristina Banfi"
Mailto:banfi@essarp.org.ar

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4. Business English Course
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CAIT is arranging a 50-hour Intensive Week Course which covers all
issues related to the FTBE (Foundation Certificate for Teachers of.
Business English)

From March 29th to April 3rd. Vacancies are limited.

The FTBE is an award for qualified general EFL practising teachers
who intend to specialise in teaching English for business purposes
and has been developed by the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry
Examinations Board.

For a free screening test and more information, call 4311-8544 or
4314-2583.

Posted by: Alejandra M. Jorge
CAIT- Director of Studies
Maipú 863 3º C (1006) Capital Federal - Argentina
mailto:<mailto:cait@ciudad.com.ar>cait@ciudad.com.ar

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5. Multiple Learning Course
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CR Inglés Educational Consultancy is organising a workshop in the
Westof Buenos Aires on Sat 27th March 10 a.m to 1 p.m on "Effective
MultipleLearning".

Venue to be confirmed: Area: San Antonio de Padua.

More information on:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/5536/cr.html

The Main speaker will be Cecilia Ramirez, graduate from I.S.F.D #21,
teacher of Language and Methodology at Instituto del Profesorado
D.F.Sarmiento. She is a member of SEAL and IATEFL, owner and director
of CR and founder of FTSG (Friendly Teachers and Students Group).

Posted by: Cecilia Ramirez.
Mailto:cr@infovia.com.ar

 

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N&V-L Digest 464 - 8 March 1999
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There are 4 messages in this digest.

1. Could I suggest this site ?
2. The Global Education Network
3. Educational Theatre in English (Buenos Aires)
4. Chat channel is Tuesday night

[ Message transmitted 8 March 1999, Internet Time @ 991 ]

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1. Could I suggest this site ?
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Hi all:

Could I suggest this site - ?
<http://www.english-to-go.com/>http://www.english-to-go.com/

It has a library of instant reading comprehension lessons, which
updates quite frequently. And you can even have them in your mailbox.

Enjoy!

Posted by:Mercedes Rossetti
<http://members.xoom.com/project_2000>http://members.xoom.com/project_2000
ICQ No. 29384556
mailto:mrossetti@impsat1.com.ar

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2. The Global Education Network
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The Global Education Network is a new online recruiting
and employment opportunities service. If you are looking
for work in the field of instructional English or you are
looking for qualified teachers, come and visit the Global
Education Network:

http://www.geocities.com/~lateral97/GEN/default.htm
Regards
Posted by: Michael Sproule
Project Manager - The Global Education Network
mailto:gen53@hotmail.com

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3. Educational Theatre in English (Buenos Aires)
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ARTSPOT invites Heads and Teachers to the opening performances
of "CLEOPATRA, The Adventure of a Princess" . An educational
musical play for all ages supported by a resource book and an
audio cassette to use in class.

South: Teatro Payró (Maipú 380 - Banfield)
Thursday, March 18
7:30 pm - Cocktail / 8:30 pm - Performance

Downtown: Teatro Armenio (Armenia 1366 - Cap.Fed.)
Friday, March 19 / Saturday, March 20
7:30 pm - Cocktail / 8:30 pm - Performance

North: Teatro de la Capilla (Ladislao Martínez 539 - Martínez)
Friday, March 26 / Saturday, March 27
7:30 pm - Cocktail / 8:30 pm - Performance

Admission is free for Heads and Teachers. Limited seating capacity
Please confirm your attendance in advance
ARTSPOT, Education and Entertainment
Tel/Fax (011) 4733-3087 - <mailto:artspot@movi.com.ar>artspot@movi.com.ar


Forwarded by List Editor by:
mailto:artspot@movi.com.ar

 

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4. Chat channel is Tuesday night
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A reminder that our chat channel will be open again tomorrow
night. Please log on and invite friends and colleagues to join
us.

A reminder of the technical aspects:

The ELT News & Views IRC runs on Tuesdays from 21.00 to 23.00
Argentina/Brazil time (00.00 - 03.00 GMT), but consult your
local time for time variations.

Log on to Dalnet - you can use <hebron.in.us.dal.net> to avoid
netsplitting with the ChanOp - although any Dalnet server will
be ok. Other clients on, for example, Undernet or Overnet, will
not connect you to a Dalnet channel). We use Dalnet because it
offers the best connections for Argentina and Brazil.

The name of the channel is #ELTNews&Views, typed exactly as
given here (the # symbol is not required). If the channel is
unattended when you log on, hang on in - IRC connections are
notoriously unreliable and the ChanOp may have fallen out.

I (Martin Eayrs) shall be online personally and my nick is
El_Ingles, so if you have any problems online you can Msg me.

The only stipulation on channel will be respect for other channel
members and 'English only'.

Notice I have cut the log on time down to two hours only, that is
from 21.00 - 23.00. Obviously members can go on chatting as long as
they like but I can not commit myself to keeping an Op on channel
beyond 11 pm at this early stage.

Hope to see you online on Tuesday.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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N&V-L Digest 465 - 9 March 1999
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There are 4 messages in this digest.

1. APIBA new email number
2. Foundation Certificate for Teachers of Business English
3. VII Jornadas Cuyo
4. Kids say the darnedest things

[ Message transmitted 9 March 1999, Internet Time @ 144 ]

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1. APIBA new email number
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APIBA has now got an email address,

<apiba99@yahoo.com>

Please make a note for future reference

 

Posted by:Stella Ugarte
mailto:schstella@yahoo.com

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2. Foundation Certificate for Teachers of Business English
----------------------------------------------------------

This 50-hour Intensive Week Course covers all the issues
related to the FTBE (Foundation Certificate for Teachers of
Business English). Self-contained course from March 29th to
April 3rd. vacancies are limited.

The FTBE is an award for qualified general EFL practising
teachers who intend to specialise in teaching English for
business purposes and has been developed by the London
Chamber of Commerce and Industry- Examinations Board.

For a free screening test and more information, call 4311-8544
or 4314-2583.

Posted by: Alejandra M. Jorge -
CAIT- Director of Studies
Maipú 863 3º C (1006) Capital Federal - Argentina
mailto:cait@ciudad.com.ar

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3. VII Jornadas Cuyo
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Universidad Nacional de Cuyo, Facultad de Filosofía y Letras

VII JORNADAS DE ENSEÑANZA DE LENGUAS EXTRANJERAS EN EL NIVEL
SUPERIOR

15, 16 Y 17 April, 1999

Themes:

* El Lenguaje Científico y su Terminología.
* Metodología para la Enseñanza de las Lenguas.
* El contenido cultural en la Enseñanza de las Lenguas
Extranjeras
* Aspectos Interculturales
* Estudios Contrastivos.
* Las Lenguas de Especialidad
* Tecnología Educativa.
* Temas varios relacionados con la enseñanza de lenguas
extranjeras en el nivel Superior

Guest speakers include:

* Liliana Cubo de Severino (UNCuyo)
* Mario Lopez Barrios (UNSan Juan)
* Ana Armendariz (Instituto Superior ("J V Gonzalez"- Bs As)
* Pascual Masullo (UNComahue)
* Eija Ventola (Martin Luther Universitat, Alemania)
* Christine Feak (Universidad de Michigan, EEUU)

Prof. Feak and Prof. Ventola will be giving courses immediately
before and after the main sessions at a time and venue shortly
to be confirmed.

Registration until 31 March 1999.

Cost: Teachers: $ 30 Students: $10

Send registration/get info from:

Prof. Amalia Esther Sanchez Prof. Marta Morán de Aguiar
Diego Paroissiens 525. San José Vicente Gil 434
(5519) Guaymallén MENDOZA (5500) - Mendoza

and by email: English Dept: inglés@logos.uncu.edu.ar
French Dept: defran@logos.uncu.edu.ar

Forwarded by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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4. Kids say the darnedest things
--------------------------------

Some school teachers must agree with that, because they keep
journals of amusing things their students have written in papers.
Here are a few examples:

The future of "I give" is "I take."

The parts of speech are lungs and air.

The inhabitants of Moscow are called Mosquitoes.

A census taker is man who goes from house to house increasing
the population.

Water is composed of two gins. Oxygin and hydrogin. Oxygin is
pure gin. Hydrogin is gin and water.

(Define H2O and CO2.) H2O is hot water and CO2 is cold water.

A virgin forest is a forest where the hand of man has never set
foot.

The general direction of the Alps is straight up.

A city purifies its water supply by filtering the water then
forcing it through an aviator.

Most of the houses in France are made of plaster of Paris.

The people who followed the Lord were called the 12 opossums.

The spinal column is a long bunch of bones. The head sits on the
top and you sit on the bottom.

We do not raise silk worms in the United States, because we get
our silk from rayon. He is a larger worm and gives more silk.

One of the main causes of dust is janitors.

A scout obeys all to whom obedience is due and respects all duly
constipated authorities.

One by-product of raising cattle is calves.

To prevent head colds, use an agonizer to spray into the nose until
it drips into the throat.

The four seasons are salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar.

The climate is hottest next to the Creator.

Oliver Cromwell had a large red nose, but under it were deeply
religious feelings.

The word trousers is an uncommon noun because it is singular at
the top and plural at the bottom.

Syntax is all the money collected at the church from sinners.

The blood circulates through the body by flowing down one leg
and up the other.

In spring, the salmon swim upstream to spoon.

Iron was discovered because someone smelt it.

In the middle of the 18th century, all the morons moved to Utah.

A person should take a bath once in the summer, not so often
in the winter.

Posted by: Geoffrey Astbury
mailto:ageoffr@fibertel.com.ar

**

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N&V-L Digest 466 - 15 March 1999
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There are 7 messages in this digest.

1. ELT News & Views is not a free publication
2. Easter Course at SBS
3. Mar del Plata Conference
4. PGC Conference, Rosario
5. Coordinating Successfully
6. Can writing be taught ?
7. ELT News & Views March 1999 issue now printing

[ Message transmitted 15 March 1999, Internet Time @ 221 ]

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1. ELT News & Views is not a free publication
---------------------------------------------

There seems to be a rumour going around that ELT News & Views is
now available on free subscription. Obviously if this were true
readers who have subscribed to ELT News & Views in the last year
would be seriously discriminated against and would indeed have a
serious grievance.

Let me put the record straight. ELT News & Views is - as it always
has been - a printed publication for teachers of English in southern
South America. It consists of three parts: The main magazine, a
feature supplement (whose theme changes with each issue) and a
supplement of photocopiable ideas and activities (Swapshop).

ELT News & Views is available BY SUBSCRIPTION ONLY and there is a
fee of US 25 per year (or US$ 45 for two years) to subscribers living
in Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay. For
delivery to addresses in other countries the fee is US$ 35 and US$ 65
for one or two years respectively.

What IS available free is this list (N&V-L) and a number of services
offered through our web site which is open to anyone and can be found
at http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar. From this web site visitors can
raed and download various services: Job shop Argentina, Calendar of ELT
events in southern South America, a list of ELT acronyms, and various
other items - ELT News & Views is in the process of building this up
at present.

The confusion may have arisen through the fact that 'ELT News & Views'
is the name both of our magazine and our organisation, which now offers
an increasing number of other services. But please understand that the
magazine is not free and indeed, given the time and energy required to
put it together, I have no plans for it ever to be so.

Posted by: Martin Eayrs
Editor ELT News & Views
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**
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2. Easter Course at SBS
-----------------------

SBS would like to announce its Easter Course to be held at SBS
Belgrano branch, Vuelta de Obligado 2382, Capital on April 1 to 3.
Lecturers for this course will be;

JAMIE DUNCAN Passion fruit

MARIA MARTA SUAREZ Playful Activities to Facilitate Learning

MARTA CRESPO/ Getting the Most of Short Texts
CRISTINA SPERANZA

SUSAN HILLYARD Livening up your Classroom with Drama
Activities

ORIEL E.VILLAGARCIA Ideas that Work; Music in the Classroom
- a Second Helping

Sessions are self contained and will be given in the order
indicated above, one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
Prospective participants can come to just one session, two, or
three or all of them.

For further information and registration, please contact SBS by
phone/fax 114 784 1501 or by phone 114 780 1522 or by e-mail at
<baires@sbs.com.ar>.

Posted by Oriel Villagarcia
mailto:baires@sbs.com.ar

**
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3. Mar del Plata Conference
---------------------------

1st. Convention of the teaching of English in Higher Education
June 24, 25,and 26, 1999

CALL FOR PAPERS

The "1st. Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education" will
be held in Mar del Plata, Argentina from 24 to 26 June, 1999. Organized
by the Department of Modern Languages, Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata,
this convention is expected to be an excellent opportunity for professionals,
in the field of English Language Teaching to meet and share interests, ideas,
and projects regarding the teaching of the language at 'Institutos Superiores'
and Universities.

The Organizing Committee invites teachers working at 'Institutos
Superiores,' and
Universities, researchers, program administrators, and material
writers to submit
proposals for presentations. Proposals will be accepted until 31 March, 1999 .
All proposals will be read by the Organizing Committee and decisions will be
made and communicated to proposers by the end of April, 1999.

Special areas of interest in this conference are:

* Literature and Culture Studies
* Applied Linguistics
* ESP
* Teacher Education
* Research
* Educational Management

Types of presentations:

* Talk (45 minutes)
In a Talk, the presenter puts forward theoretical or practical
ideas related to the ELT field.

* Workshop (90 minutes)
In a Workshop, the presenter engages the audience in activities to
explore the ideas put forward.

* Commercial Presentation (45 minutes)
In a Commercial Presentation, authors, editors, and publishers present
materials and services to those professionals involved in the teaching
of English at higher levels.

Proposal forms can be obtained from the following address, where
questions can also be directed.:

Chair of the Organizing Committee
Dr. Susana B. Tuero
1st. Convention of the Teaching of English in Higher Education
Decanato de la Facultad de Humanidades
Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata
Dean Funes 3350
7600 Mar del Plata - Buenos Aires - Argentina

Phone: 54 023 79-2531 (leave message)
54 023 79-3500 (Tu. & Th. from 19:00 to 21:00 hs.)
Fax: 54 023 75-2277
E-mail: sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar

Posted by: Susana Tuero
mailto:sbtuero@mdp.edu.ar

 

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4. PGC Conference, Rosario
---------------------------

The dates for the Seventh Winter Conference at the Post-Graduate Centre
have unfortunately had to be changed.

The event will now take place on Saturday 12 June.

Apolgies for the change and please contact me for further information.

Posted by: Franca Maestri
Post-Graduate Centre
Phone/Fax: +54-41-243976
Cordoba 836, 2000 - Rosario, ARGENTINA
mailto:postgrad@satlink.com

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5. Coordinating Successfully
----------------------------

Because of the overwhelming sucess of Coordinating Successfully, a new
date has been scheduled for Saturday, April 10, 1999.

The seminar is suitable for Teachers of English and Coordinators who
would like to gain new ideas on how to Coordinate English teachers at
all levels successfully. Topics include: hiring, interviewing techniques,
class observation, appraisals and feedback, motivating staff, dealing
with difficult personalities.

Information from ABS International: Guemes 4382- Capital.
Tel/Fax: 4832-0761 E-mail: <mailto:lewin@einstein.com.ar>lewin@einstein.com.ar

Posted by: Laura Lewin,
Director, ABS International
mailto:lewin@einstein.com.ar


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6. Can writing be taught ?
--------------------------

First of all, hello to everyone, as I'm a new member of the list.
Some time ago, a colleague forwarded to me this message from a
worried writing teacher, and I thought I'd post my answer here,
and invite all of you to air their views on the teaching of writing.

I have numbered the paragraphs in her message for ease of reference:
*************************************************************************
The original letter
-------------------

Dear all:

1. Somebody wrote that to write a composition it is necessary to have the
feeling for it, or to be inspired. I wonder if then this can be taught in
a classroom or if this is just a natural ability that only needs to be
polished.

2. I know many books on how to teach composition have been written, but
do great writers need to go through this complex process to write their
great masterpieces? or do they simply get a piece of paper, a pen, and
their creation is right there under the tip of their fingers?
I can't imagine Richard Bach -my favorite one- going through all this
process of learning how to write to become the writer he is.

3. I am about to start a composition course, and I wonder if I can teach
this course if I myself am not a writer, or better to say, the writer I
wish I were.
*************************************************************************

This is my response:
-------------------

1. F. Scott Fitzgerald said: "You don't write because you want to say
something; you write because you've got something to say." To me, what a
writing teacher can at least *try* to do in the classroom is to create the
need for writing; to arouse the urge, the motivation to write; to galvanise
student writers into "having something to say".

2. Somebody else said: "Process can't be inferred from product any more
than a pig can be inferred from a sausage". Writing takes time. I imagine
even great writers go through complex cognitive processes to produce their
texts (see Flower & Hayes 1981*). Still, I would draw a distinction between
"great" writers in L1 and L2. Very few L2 writers (e.g. Joseph Conrad,
Vladimir Nabokov) have reached the standards of great L1 writers. Yet, I
gather the process of writing is hard for all. Again, another writer's own
words: "Most people won't realize that writing is a craft. You have to take
your apprenticeship in it like anything else." (Katherine Anne Porter)

3. In brief, my opinion is "Yes". However, I believe that as EFL teachers
we are not trying to produce the next Joyce, or Beckett, but we want our
students to be effective (and this also may involve being creative) L2
writers.

* Flower, L. & Hayes, J.R. (1981) "Cognitive Process Theory of Writing", in
College Composition and Communication 32 (4): 365-387.
Posted by: Analia Kandel
E. FRIAS 24-7-A, (1414) capital
Tel: +54 11 4856 3826
mailto:akandel@cvtci.com.ar

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7. ELT News & Views March 1999 issue now printing
-------------------------------------------------

The March 1999 issue of ELT News & Views (the printed version) is now at
the printers and should be in the post by the 24th March.

Contributors of articles to this issue (in alphabetical order) include:

Richard Acklam, María Eugenia Anticaglia, Katherine Bailey,
Liliana Baltra, Adriana Benvenuto, Silvana Bodusso, Mariana Casale,
Jamie Duncan, David Eastment, Judy Garton-Sprenger, Simon Greenall,
Michael Hall, Jeremy Harmer, Susan Hillyard, Leina Jucá, Kevin Keys,
Richard Law, Michael Lewis, Alison McGowan, Pat McLauglin, Peter Medgyes,
Philip Minkoff, Adrian Mower, David Nunan, Felicity O'Dell, Amos Paran,
Beatriz Pena Lima, Anita Pincas, Gillian Porter Ladouse, Philip Prowse,
Alan Pulverness, Michael Quinion, Mario Rinvolucri, Mónica Segura,
Nelly Shakespear, Ivor Timmis, Pablo Toledo, Adrian Underhill,
George Wilcox.

The Feature supplement for this issue is on the theme 'Literature in ELT'.

If you would like to see a 12 page sample of the March issue you can visit
http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/download/download.html where you can
print or download a sample. There is no charge for this and you may copy
and distribute these sample pages freely.

If you are not sure whether your subscription has expired or would like
information about how to subscribe or renew your subscription please contact
Nathalie at <admin@eltnewsandviews.com.ar>. You can also phone Nathalie on
54-11-4371-7705 (Mon-Thurs, 14.00 - 18.30 only) or fax 54-4375-3944).

Posted by: Martin Eayrs
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**
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N&V-L Digest 467 - 16 March 1999
--------------------------------

There are 4 messages in this digest.

1. Looking for Duncan Alp
2. Tuesday night is chat night
3. Message for teachers of BEC
4. The happy.exe family of worms

[ Message transmitted 16 March 1999, Internet Time @ 206 ]

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1. Looking for Duncan Alp
-------------------------

I'm looking for the address or mailing address of an American teacher
named Duncan Alp. The last news I've heard about him was that he was
working in an Institute in Bs. As.(Palermo). If you know his whereabouts,
please forward answer to <macastro@mdp.edu.ar>.

I would really appreciate it.

Thanks.

Posted by: Mariela Castro
Mar del Plata.
mailto:macastro@mdp.edu.ar

**
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2. Tuesday night is chat night
------------------------------

Just to remind you our chat channel will be open again tomorrow
night (Tuesday). Please log on and invite friends and colleagues
to join us.

A reminder of the technical aspects:

The ELT News & Views IRC runs on Tuesdays from 21.00 to 23.00
Argentina/Brazil time (00.00 - 03.00 GMT), but consult your
local time for time variations.

Log on to Dalnet - you can use <hebron.in.us.dal.net> to avoid
netsplitting with the ChanOp - although any Dalnet server will
be ok. Other clients on, for example, Undernet or Overnet, will
not connect you to a Dalnet channel). We use Dalnet because it
offers the best connections for Argentina and Brazil.

The name of the channel is #ELTNews&Views, typed exactly as
given here (the # symbol is not required). If the channel is
unattended when you log on, hang on in - IRC connections are
notoriously unreliable and the ChanOp may have fallen out.

I (Martin Eayrs) shall be online personally and my nick is
El_Ingles, so if you have any problems online you can Msg me.

Hope to see you online on Tuesday.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**
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3. Message for teachers of BEC
------------------------------

As a result of an article on BEC published in yesterday´s La Nación,
I am receiving many phone calls and e-mails from students who, apart
from requesting additional information on these certificates, would
like to know where to prepare for them.

I would be grateful if teachers and or institutes offering BEC would
let me know by e-mail of the fact and I would then produce a list I
could offer mycallers, without this implying any recommendation or
endorsement.

Many thanks!

Posted by: Litty Mora
UCLES Support Officer for Argentina
mailto:plmora@impsat1.com.ar

**
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4. The happy.exe family of worms
--------------------------------

There is a nasty bug going around PCs (Macs are not affected)
which arrives in your environment under the names of Happy99.exe
or happy.exe or similar. If you open the file it will give a
brief firework display and then start to cause problems.

For a description of this worm I suggest you visit the site
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html
where you will learn all about this little piece of evil and
how to undo its nasty work.

This is not a virus scare - the webpage is Symantec's, the
maker of Norton Anti-Virus and other similar software. And
happy is not tecnically a virus, rather a worm, but equally
undesirable and persistent.

So if you do happen to receive an attachment called happy.exe
or happy99.exe don't try to run it - you'll find it hard to get
of and every email you send will be accompanied by another with,
yes, you've guessed, happy.exe. Trash it, or whatever it is you
PC people do with files you don't want any more.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**

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N&V-L Digest 468 - 18 March 1999
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There are 5 messages in this digest.

1. Associate of the College of Teachers (ACT)
2. Look at this website
3. Language query
4. Getting a job and hiring staff
5. Two questions

[ Message transmitted 18 March 1999, Internet Time @ 439 ]

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1. Associate of the College of Teachers (ACT)
----------------------------------------------

The ESSARP Centre is pleased to present its highly successful
course leading to examinations for Associate membership of the
College of Teachers (formerley the College of Preceptors).
This course has been based at the Centre since 1986 and is
now available in two modes:

* The tried and tested hours face-to-face with the course,
tutors of weekly classes of four hours, together with
appropriate readings and activities. This mode has alreadys
begun and is on Wednesday from 0800 - 1200 and is open to
teachers in Capital Federal and Gran Buenos Aires.
There are limited places available and before Easter
enrollment will be closed.

* ACT@distance is a guided reading programme of the same
readings as in the face to face mode, with activities
conducted by either/or post or e-mail, and some face to
face contact, to be arranged. This mode is open to teachers
outside the area of the face-to-face mode and is now
in its second year of operation. The first mailing is in
preparation and will shortly be going out to students as
close as Mar del Plata and as far away as Rio de Janeiro.

For further details of either version of this eighteen month
course contact Terry Cullen at:

The ESSARP Centre,
Callao 67 - 5" - A",
1022 Buenos Aires
Tel: 54 11 4371 6064
Fax: 54 11 4383 2260
E-mail: acp@essarp.org.ar <mailto:acp@essarp.org.ar>

Posted by Terry Cullen
mailto:tcullen@cvtci.com.ar

**
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2. Look at this website
-----------------------

Someone sent me this URL and I thought I would like to share it
with other list members. It is a good example of what can be done
with the discrete use of java applewts and drag 'n drop.

Go to http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/~ssesl/Puzzles.html

which has puzzles to help you practice healthcare vocabulary.

Even if you are not interested in English for medical applications
it's worth having a look at it to see how a simple* idea can work
effectively on a web site.

(* well ok, I didn't do the programming !!)

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**
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3. Language query
-----------------

I have a little problem and maybe you can help me. Does this phrase
actually exist in English ?

"How was the weather?" i

Instead of

"What was the weather like?".

My student always use the first phrase and I, as a NNS, don't know
anymore which one is correct or if both are used indistinctively

I'd appreciate a fast answer. Thanks.

 

Posted by: Danaydes Albóniga
mailto:dalboniga@finlay.edu.cu

**
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4. Getting a job and hiring staff
---------------------------------

May I remind list members of the ELT Jobshop option on our
web site.

Teaching Institutions looking for teaching staff are
invited to place an advertisment on the "Positions offered"
pages of the ELT News & Views 'Jobshop' web page.

Similarly, whether you live in Argentina or elsewhere, if you
are looking for a teaching position in Argentina you are invited
to post your details on the "Positions wanted" pages of the same
web site.

You will find the application forms and further information at
http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar - click on the link in the
site map at the left that says "ELT Jobs Argentina".

There is no charge for this service, but in order for it to grow
and be useful it needs to become generally known. Passing the word
around will thus be in everyone's interest.

Posted by: List editor
mailto:me@interlink.com.ar

**

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5. Two questions
----------------

1. I have a student who sat for the Cambridge CAE exam and got
grade C. She is seventeen years old and would like to continue
her studies of English but with an aim. By aim she means sit
for another exam.

She has one year to study because then she´s leaving for BsAs
to study at university. I had thought of the CPE but I don´t
think one year is enough time for sb this age.

Her level of English is good. She is very keen on arts and.
architecture What can you suggest for this young girl?

2. What is the Michigan exam about? Who can send me further
information on this exam?

Thanks for helping

Posted by: Silvia Benson
Necochea 233
7300 Azul - Argentina
Te/Fax: 0281-25457
mailto:sbenson@satlink.com

**

end

---------------------------------------------
Martin Eayrs, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Email: <me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar>

 

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N&V-L Digest 469 - 23 March 1999
--------------------------------

There are 4 messages in this digest.

1. How's the weather today ?
2. IATEFL 1999: Webcast and Virtual Conference
3. Acronyms and abbreviations in English Language Teaching
4. N&V-L at IATEFL, Edinburgh

[ Message transmitted 23 March 1999, Internet Time @ 529 ]

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1. How's the weather today ?
-----------------------------

As far as I know, it is quite standard and common to say "How's the weather
today?" "Whats the weather like" is a question about the climate rather
than the weather.

Another example: "How was the play (or theatre) last night?" asks about
how good a time you had, what was your date like (both person and
occasion), and so on. "What was the play like?" asks strictly about the
play, as a literary piece (acts, characters, theme, etc) or performance.

Posted by: Aldo Blanco
mailto:alblanco@ub.edu.ar

**
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2. IATEFL 1999: Webcast and Virtual Conference
----------------------------------------------

IATEFL CONFERENCE 1999: WEBCAST AND VIRTUAL CONFERENCE

This year's IATEFL Conference in Edinburgh sees a further development in
the field of 'virtual conferences'. Last September, the "ESP
Anti-Conference" in Switzerland was attended by delegates from Central
and Eastern Europe. As with many conferences, what they said had wider
validity, and to increase the networking effect of the conference a
BBC/IATEFL/British Council team put extracts on the web using text,
photos, audio and a bit of video. The Swiss conference site is currently
being revised, but will return.

At the forthcoming IATEFL annual conference there will be three elements:
1. A Webcast on the topic of "Language and Nation", from 2000-2100 GMT on
Monday 29th March. Speakers include Tony O'Brien from The British
Council, Professor Anne Pakir from the National University of Singapore,
Dr. Mike Wallace from Edinburgh University and Iseabail Macleod,
Editorial Director of the Scottish National Dictionary Association. Web
pages will supplement the audio, and the whole event will later be
archived.
2. Reports from selected presentations from the various Special Interest
Groups.
3. A discussion group launched by IATEFL for some weeks before and after
the conference.
Full details can be found in two places:
(i) The BBC's conference website, from which the webcast and reports will
be reached:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/conference/iatefl99/
(ii) IATEFL's Virtual Conference page - which explains the thinking
behind what's happening: http://www.iatefl.org/VirtualConference.htm

Forwarded by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**

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3. Acronyms and abbreviations in English Language Teaching
----------------------------------------------------------

I have been working on and off over the last year on updating a list
of acronyms and abbreviations found in English Language Teaching.
I have now accumulated approximately 1150 abbreviations and acronyms.

Given my location there is an emphasis on Argentina and Brazil and I
have also included some common expressions from Linguistics and
Information Technology. There are also, naturally enough, common
expressions from the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and
there is still space for many more ...

The list is too long to post to N&V-L but if any one feels it might be
a useful resource they are welcome to access it or link to it. A few
words of acknowledgement would not be amiss if you do find it useful.

The list can be found at:

http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/acronyms/acronyms.html

This is still very much a working project rather than a finished product,
and I would not like to be held responsible for typos and other errors.
I shall continue to add and update the items over the year and additions,
corrections or comments will be very welcome. Any other feedback would
also be appreciated - there are many parts of the world to which I do
not have easy access..

Posted by: Martin Eayrs
Buenos Aires - Argentina
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

 

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4. N&V-L at IATEFL, Edinburgh
-----------------------------

Members of the N&V-L list who are attending the IATEFL conference
in Edinburgh next week are invited to contact the list editor, Martin
Eayrs. If you can't find him leave a note on the messages board and he
will reply with a meeting time and place.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

**

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N&V-L Digest 470 - 25 March 1999
--------------------------------
The list will be inactive now until 12 April. Messages may be
posted usual as and will be dealt with on that date.

There are 5 messages in this digest.

1. Concerns about 'professional language teaching ´in Argentina
2. ESP Interest Section Argentina
3. SEAL at Warwick in April
4. Previous N&V-L Digests
5. MA programs for English teachers in Argentina

[ Message transmitted 25 March 1999 , Internet Time @ 690 ]

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1. Concerns about 'professional language teaching ´in Argentina
---------------------------------------------------------------

I'd like to share with you my concern about 'professional language
teaching´ in Argentina.

I´m a bit worried and at the same time angry about the professional
standards of English Language Courses and Services that the UBA is
offering through its PROGRAMA EXTRACURRICULAR DE INGLES EN LA UBA.

As far as I know, most of the people working there and/or in charge
are not ELT graduate professional teachers. So even if they do possess
a working knowledge of the target language, they do not know (or at
least have not studied systematically) about the target language or
the process of language acquisition. I must admit that they do have
an excellent marketing strategy, though.

What I can´t understand is why the UNIVERSITY OF BUENOS AIRES is
endorsing these courses. What a shame, really! This makes all of us
who spent and are still spending lots of time and money to get our
degrees and become true professionals feel terrible.

Besides, I believe that all the profesorados nacionales, in Buenos
Aires Joaquin and Lenguas, should be in charge and control of these
extension services to raise funds for research into foreign language
learning and teaching. Nowadays the (considerable) funds raised go
into the treasuries of the school of philosophy, economy, history,
geography, biology, chemistry or even worse into private hands in
the case of Programa Extracurricular. Isn´t it unfair?

I wonder if there's something we can do about it.

Posted by: Mabel Quiroga
OUTLOOK-Training & Consulting
Bolivar 226- 4"M"-(1066) T. 4331-8997
mailto:outlook@impsat1.com.ar

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2. ESP Interest Section Argentina
---------------------------------

ESP IS ARGENTINA is meeting again.

The ESP Interest Section of ARTESOL will hold an open meeting
next Friday March 26th at 10:30 a.m.

Contact : Liliana/Patricia Orsi at rainboworsi@arnet.com.ar

Posted by: Liliana/Patricia Orsi
mailto:rainboworsi@arnet.com.ar

 

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3. SEAL at Warwick in April
---------------------------

The Eighth International SEAL Conference, 8-11 April 1999 will
take place at the University of Warwick, UK.

Check out the SEAL Conference on our Web Site at www.SEAL.org.uk
and read about our BRING A FRIEND Promotion.

Alternatively, e-mail us on seal@soceal.co.uk

or phone us on +44-1225-466244

or fax us on +44-1225-835800

Argentina will be having the second largest contingent of all
countries world-wide, second only to the UK.

Posted by: Robert Gillan
mailto:seal@soceal.demon.co.uk

**
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4. Previous N&V-L Digests
-------------------------

If you want to consult earlier digests we are in the process
of putting them up on our web site. November and December 1998
and February 1999 can now be consulted online at

http://www.eltnewsandviews.com.ar/listpage/digests.html

We hope in time to put earlier back numbers up but hope that
list members will understand this is not our top priority.

Posted by: N&V-L List Editor
mailto:me@eltnewsandviews.com.ar

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5. MA programs for English teachers in Argentina
------------------------------------------------

I would like to have some information about MA programs for
English teachers in Argentina.

I believe that most of them are offered through distance learning in
connection with British or American universities.

Could somebody help me find more information about these programs?

Thanx in advance,

Posted by: Gabriela Cambiasso
mailto:gcambi1@icarus.cc.uic.edu

**

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